Timeline for Why is the Software tag being edited out?
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| Nov 12, 2017 at 2:18 | comment | added | PolyGeo Mod | @HarryVervet the Software Recommendations Stack Exchange deals with the same "weirdness", by trying to distinguish web apps (as software) and websites (as content). While some of us are more software literate I think our users asking for recommendations just want to know whether they should try FindMyPast, Ancestry, Family Tree Maker, Scrivener, etc without always having a clear preference for a web, desktop or mobile solution. Blurring the seeking of web, desktop and mobile recommendations into software-recommendations is something I can easily live with on this site. | |
| Nov 8, 2017 at 23:10 | comment | added | Jan Murphy Mod | My concern is simple. @lkessler wrote: "So if I want to follow all questions about any software, or software in general, I no longer have the tag to do it with." In our eagerness to clean up the site tags, I fear that sometimes we forget the purpose of the tagging on the site. (Yes, this is the same objection I had about the decade tags.) | |
| Nov 8, 2017 at 9:37 | comment | added | user6485 | @lkessler No worries -- we all have our moments... | |
| Nov 8, 2017 at 7:40 | comment | added | user6485 | @HarryVervet I've only added to (IIRC) two website questions where the question seemed similar to questions that had were preveiously tagged both [software] (now [software-recommendations]) and [website]), where the admissible answers seemd to include both software recs and website recs. I 'm happy for my edits to be rejected. We do need to consider what to do to tag website recommendations, to differentiate them from asking questions about using specific websites and/or carrying out generic tasks on the web. | |
| Nov 8, 2017 at 4:47 | comment | added | Harry V. Mod | I'm finding it a little weird that website recommendation questions are being grouped under the software-recommendations tag. This seems very unintuitive to me - what's the reasoning for that? That's not to say we need a website-recommendations tag, I'm just not sure software-recommendations is the correct name for the tag if it's to include things other than software | |
| Nov 7, 2017 at 21:50 | comment | added | PolyGeo Mod | Thanks for understanding - it can be hard to discern consensus around issues when Meta is quiet. | |
| Nov 7, 2017 at 19:59 | comment | added | lkessler | @ColeValleyGirl - Oooops. As you stated in your comment in the other answer below, the question was asked Oct 13, 2017 and NOT Oct 2013. My apologies for my senior moment. Please take back everything I said. And you'll notice I did see this "new" post, not right away, but within a couple of weeks. I don't monitor Meta all the time but my wondering about the removal of the software tag got me to look through it for related conversation. | |
| Nov 7, 2017 at 16:16 | comment | added | lkessler | @ColeValleyGirl - The comments were added to an answer to a four year old question. Those are very invisible. I may have noticed if the comments were added onto the question. I would have noticed if a new question was created, which would have been appropriate after 4 years. It could have referred back to the old question for context. | |
| Nov 7, 2017 at 16:05 | comment | added | lkessler | I'm happy with what the majority think. I'm just one opinion. | |
| Nov 7, 2017 at 9:06 | comment | added | PolyGeo Mod | @lkessler ColeValleyGirl is right - we could rollback the edits on the individual questions if re-tagging was the only change made to them. I was thinking we'd need to go to the tag page. My belief is that the tagging scheme we are using today is superior to that in place a few weeks ago so my vote would be not to rollback. | |
| Nov 7, 2017 at 7:53 | comment | added | user6485 | @PolyGeo Could the edits not simply be reverted to the previous version if that's the decision taken? However, I don't have the privileges to do so, and any retagging I do will have to be reviewed and approved again by somebody else. | |
| Nov 7, 2017 at 7:29 | comment | added | user6485 | @lkessler Can I suggest that the place to raise your points about software recommendations is the meta questions (already linked to) raised specifically to discuss that topic? It's a pity you've missed them before now, as it would have been helpful to get your input but we're all busy people. | |
| Nov 7, 2017 at 6:47 | comment | added | PolyGeo Mod | @lkessler I just took a quick look at the first 15 of those 44 and to me all but possibly 1 look like software-recommendations so I think ColeValleyGirl has done a great job with her tag choice. Migrating to another site is only an option for the 60 days after a question is asked. Undoing software tag removals is not possible, except by re-tagging back. I wish we had heard your concerns about losing this tag sooner but now that the re-tagging (which I agree with) has occurred I think the best way forward may be adjusting to it. | |
| Nov 7, 2017 at 3:35 | comment | added | lkessler | Looking at the 44 software-recommendations tags, in my opinion, most of them should be retagged to the old "software" tag, and only a few are asking "what program can do this" and should be migrated to the Software Recommendations site, which has a genealogy tag with 8 questions there, most of which look like they've been already migrated from our site. And if there is any way to undo all the software tag removals, that would be great. | |
| Nov 7, 2017 at 3:24 | comment | added | lkessler | Yes, software is one of the 5 tags I follow. I thought I saw that it has 15 followers. I don't think software-recommendations should be a tag here since there is a Stack Exchange site for those. I think the tag description for the software tag that I linked to in my question is perfect as it is and it has nothing to do with software-recommendations. As the software tag description says: A good question is How do I do xxx with genealogy software. A bad question is: What genealogy software is best for doing xxx. The latter is for the Software Recommendations site. | |
| Nov 6, 2017 at 17:06 | comment | added | user6485 | @lkessler, if we wanted to reinstate the software tag how would we differentiate it from software-recommendations and all the product specific questions (or as you suggesting two tags on all software-specific ones?) I can see (sideways if I squint hard) a case for a catchall tag but strongly suspect it would be abused and we'd all spend our life retagging. | |
| Nov 6, 2017 at 17:04 | comment | added | user6485 | @lkessler Did you follow that tag, or did you follow specific products that you had expertise on? I suspect none of us are experts in all software products... Also, the software tag wasn't being consistently used -- it tended to be dropped in preference for other tags if the tag list exceeded the limits. | |
| Nov 6, 2017 at 17:01 | comment | added | lkessler | So if I want to follow all questions about any software, or software in general, I no longer have the tag to do it with. 😢 | |
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